HomeMy WebLinkAbout3.0 PC Meeting Minutes 11.12.1979November 12, 1979
Carter Jackson made a motion to continue the public hearing and ask the
developers for more information on capacity of flood structures and road
design, the revegetation plan, and water storage with pressure at the
highest lots.
Dale Albertson seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous.
THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA: Horizon's West Subdivision Preliminary Plat
Public Hearing
Arnold Mackley explained this was a proposal for 55 sinale family lots
on 280 acres located approximately 1 mile east of Rifle.
Harry Coombs stated he had wastewater rights, was concerned about a
pipeline going through the area, and stated they have a deed to the reservoir.
He would like some guarantee they can keep the water.
Dotti Pretti stated they had no intention of over riding their water
in any way.
Ken Latham asked how the water from the ditch would be measured for the
homeowners.
Gary Dean advised that their lawyer was working on that and it would be
ready at the final plat. He also stated there was no way to measure the
water after it left the headaate.
Dale Alberton suggested possibly the water could be measured by a weir
and the Water Commission could decide.
Gary Dean said that if the homeowners association handles the water,
they could decide.
Ken Latham said he had no objection to the subdivision as lona as he is
guaranteed of getting the water that is ajudicated to him.
Gary Dean said they would set up a meeting with everyone before the
final plat.
Ray Baldwin read letters from the reviewing agencies.
Kelley Meyer made a motion to recommend approval of the preliminary
plat to the Board of County Commissioners with the following conditions:
1. The ditch water situation be worked out with Mr. Latham and Mr. Coombs
and that the location of the Coombs reservior be determined and no lot will
be a part of that reservoir. 2. A 30,000 gallon water tank be installed.
3. A 2.0 acre site in the northeast corner of Lot 6, Block E be designated
for future installation of water storage facilities. 4. An easement be
dedicated to Public Service for installation of a gas regulator station site
in the southwest corner of Lot 1, Block B. 5. A 60' easement for road
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and utility purposes be shown on the final plat being 30 feet each side of lot
line in the area of Lots 6, 7, and 8, Block A. 6. Realignment of Birch Avenue
if possible to eliminate the large cut in the hill.
Carter Jackson seconded the motion, and the vote was unanimous.
FOURTH ITEM ON THE AGENDA: Donegan Subdivision Preliminary Plat
Public Hearing
Ray Baldwin explained that nothing had changed and they still have 36,000
gallons of water. He also read letters from the reviewing aoencies.
Dean Moffatt said the School District is requiring 5% of the land and not
1 acre of land for 50 units. The School District is not interested in whether
the land is zoned commercial or residential. There has also been a 50' road
right-of-way easement dedicated to the County. The access to Lot 11 will be
a 30' easement across the front and back of the lot.
Pete Moscon, adjacent owner, asked what would be allowed on the property.
Ray Baldwin read a list of restrictions the developers have put on the
subdivision.
Carlo Gaines asked about the water, the easement, and the plans bordering
his property.
Buzz Zancanella said the Colorado Department of Health would not allow
a 4" water line. Also more fire hydrants would be required which could be
planned with the development.
Dean Moffatt said there would be 5 hydrants on the property, 2 are
existing, and they could increase the water line to 6".
Ray Baldwin read lettersfrom the reviewing agencies. He also recommended
approval of the project with conditions of releasing one lot at a time to
make sure someone does not buy a lot without water. The phasing can be tied
down at final plat.
Kelley Meyer said the developers have agreed not to leap frog; are going
to work towards some continuity; and can't get a building permit without
water, but if the developer is going to sell to a third party, they should
make it contingent upon getting a building permit.
Dean Moffatt said they were willing to commit Lots 9, 10 and 11 to
residential use. Also, the Water District is looking into ditch rights. They
would like approval conditional upon water so that they can go into the final
platting process and begin to put in the subdivision improvements with the
understanding that the improvement of the lots are limited to those lots that
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HORIZON'S WEST
Kelley Meyer made a motion to recommend approval of the
preliminary plat to the Board of County Commissioners with the
following conditions:
1. The ditch water situation be worked out with Mr. Latham
and Mr. Coombs and that the location of the Coombs reservior be
determined and no lot will be a part of that reservoir.
2. A 30,000 gallon water tank be installed.
3. A 2.0 acre site in the northeast corner of Lot 6, Block E
be designated for future installation of water storage facilities.
4. An easement be dedicated to Public Service for installation
of a gas regulator station site in the southwest corner of Lot 1,
Block B.
5. A 60' easement for road and utility purposes be shown on the
final plat being 30 feet each side of lot line in the area of
Lots 6, 7, and 8, Block A.
6. Realignment of Birch Avenue if possible to eliminate the large
cut in the hill.
Carter Jackson seconded the motion, motion carried unanimously.
Regular Members
Members Present
Arnold Mackley
Kelley Meyer
Barbara Lorah
Carter Jackson
Dale Albertson
Laverne Starbuck
PLANNING COMMISSI O N
October 9,1979
County Officials Present
Ray Baldwin, Planning Director
Stephanie Andreasen, Asst. Planner
Robert Scarrow, County Surveyor
Hope Roberts, Recording Secretary
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA: Snowmass Coal special use permit
Arnold Mackley explained this was a special use permit request for a coal
loading facility on the Diamond S Ranch which is 2 miles northwest of Carbondale.
Richard Schmitz from Snowmass Coal stated they needed a load out facility
for the Thompson Creek Mine which was taken over by Snowmass Coal in 1978. They
will have long wall type mining of approximately 1 million tons per year and
need a permanent load out facility. There will be an enclosed conveyor which
will cross the river, and a 180' silo on the flat. They estimate 25 ton capacity
trucks loading every five minutes and operating five days per week. There will
also be a 100,000 ton unit train which will run approximately twice a week.
The road will be paved for preventative maintenance purposes and to keep the
dust down. The United States Environmental Protection Agency has set up guide-
lines on emission from coal. There will be a paved turnaround area. The fire
department has no specific requirements at this time. The Division of Wildlife
has concerns about the truck traffic but has not made a definite statement at
this time. Length of construction will be from early spring through December, 1980,
and there will be approximately 40 to 45 employees working during the peak of
construction. The matter of water rights was discussed and further information
will be available later.
A site visit was scheduled for October 24, 1979.
SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA: Horizon's West Subdivision preliminary plat
Gary Dean, representing the developer, advised that the location of the park
will now be in the middle of the subdivision, there will be 55 lots on 281 acres,
the size of the lots have changed, the roads have been revised to follow the
terrain, and the owners will have shares of the ditch for irrigation purposes.
They will have city water and are meeting with the City of Rifle to update the
system.
Bob Hisler, engineer, said they will have one pump for the fire system, two
for domestic water and one small pump with a pressure tank to maintain pressure.
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The maintenance of the pumps will either be through the homeowners association
or with a contract with the City of Rifle. There will be no storage tanks.
Barbara Lorah felt they should have storage tanks.
Kelley Meyer said the pumps do not give adequate back up system because of
the power interruptions.
Ray Baldwin said he was concerned about individual septic tanks and leach -
fields. He wanted to see acceptable perculation rates on each lot.
Kelley Meyer felt that by asking for perculation tests on all lots, the
Commission was asking them to spend money on something that serves no purpose.
Gary Dean said perculation tests have been done on the majority of lots.
Also, they will look into making a change on Birch Avenue where there will be
a big cut. The roads will be paved; and there will be underground utilities.
Kelley Meyer felt that if they can get an extention of City water, it
would be a good opportunity for the Commission to see what a well planned
subdivision of this density would look like.
This item was tabled.
THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA: Donegan Subvision
Roy Stachnic, from Sundesigns, explained this subdivision was located in
West Glenwood above the soccer field. Phase 1 of the project will be 36 multi-
family condominium apartment type units, 3 parcels on 412 acres. They have a
committment of 36,000 gallons of water per day from West Glenwood Water for
the first phase and the balance of the project is contingent on water supply.
They have irrigation water which they can possibly exchange. They will use the
existing overhead power line of County Road 130. They will obtain sewer service
from the West Glenwood Sanitation District. The property is zoned commercial/
limited, and the roads will be built to County specifications. Drainage would
be no problem.
Ray Baldwin said there were many uses for commercial/limited but they had
met preliminary plat agreement and there will be a public hearing, in November.
Dale Albertson stated he was glad to see an access road to #11 lot but
asked if there would be an easement on the final draft.
Roy Stachnic said they would make sure it was taken care of.
Kelley Meyer said he had concerns about using County road money to benefit
land owners that are only going to benefit those users.
Ray Baldwin said there was a serious traffic problem and they were trying
to eliminate traffic on Mel Rey Road and make two one way streets.
Kelley Meyer said he felt adjacent land owners should bare the road costs
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